1 00:00:07,369 --> 00:00:04,849 this is an update of work i began little 2 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:07,379 over a year ago and i gave a preliminary 3 00:00:16,010 --> 00:00:14,160 report at the last annual meeting it's a 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:16,020 collaboration i have with a number of 5 00:00:22,460 --> 00:00:20,010 physicists at purdue university what 6 00:00:26,050 --> 00:00:22,470 happened is that i was living national 7 00:00:28,609 --> 00:00:26,060 solar observatory and mark john popper 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:28,619 showed me two articles that caught my 9 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:30,810 attention which i'll show you in a few 10 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:36,120 minutes and that led me to contact efron 11 00:00:40,670 --> 00:00:38,550 Fishbach and his colleagues at Purdue 12 00:00:44,510 --> 00:00:40,680 I've been collaborating with them sets 13 00:00:48,290 --> 00:00:44,520 it's a problem involving nuclear physics 14 00:00:50,569 --> 00:00:48,300 and which I know extremely little and 15 00:00:52,939 --> 00:00:50,579 solar physics so I am the solar physics 16 00:00:54,979 --> 00:00:52,949 bartleburt of the project and my 17 00:01:01,599 --> 00:00:54,989 colleagues here take care of the 18 00:01:06,260 --> 00:01:01,609 nucleophilic well this goes back to 19 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:06,270 nineteen fifty-one influential article 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:16,120 concerning whether active elements and 21 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:20,600 they suspected that radioactivity was 22 00:01:25,070 --> 00:01:22,710 unaffected by an environmental effects 23 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:25,080 they put this to the test they put some 24 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:26,479 way home in the middle of a bomb 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:29,310 exploded the bomb and they are able to 26 00:01:34,090 --> 00:01:31,770 monitor that account rates during the 27 00:01:38,090 --> 00:01:34,100 explosion and they found no change 28 00:01:40,940 --> 00:01:38,100 although the temperature went up to 2500 29 00:01:48,679 --> 00:01:40,950 degrees and pressure up to a thousand 30 00:01:52,130 --> 00:01:48,689 atmospheres and recent number 972 review 31 00:01:54,050 --> 00:01:52,140 article on nuclear decay rates say that 32 00:01:57,050 --> 00:01:54,060 one of the paradigms of nuclear physics 33 00:02:00,410 --> 00:01:57,060 nuclear science has been the general 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:00,420 understanding that the half-life or 35 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:03,450 decay constant of radioactive substance 36 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:05,750 is independent of extra nuclear 37 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:08,399 considerations and that's what we all 38 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:11,550 learned in physics 101 but it happened 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:18,570 now a quick review their verse kinds of 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:21,010 decays alpha decay is a mission an alpha 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:24,370 particle beta decay is a mission of an 42 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:28,810 electron and the effects that I'll be 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:31,900 talking about a pip involve only beta 44 00:02:40,230 --> 00:02:38,410 decays okay and that's difference 45 00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:40,240 between Peters and alpha alpha is 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:42,400 governed by the strong nuclear force and 47 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:45,490 beta decays by the weak nuclear force 48 00:02:50,820 --> 00:02:48,910 which also involves neutrinos which I 49 00:02:55,620 --> 00:02:50,830 think will play a key role in this 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:55,630 project so here is an example of a decay 51 00:03:02,370 --> 00:02:57,730 of radium which is one of the subjects 52 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:02,380 of the investigation when Peter part was 53 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:07,440 emitted the rayon transfers to actinium 54 00:03:22,110 --> 00:03:12,430 the same atomic mass but a different 55 00:03:27,090 --> 00:03:22,120 atomic number okay okay now if caught my 56 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:27,100 attention was the fact that a year ago 57 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:30,330 and you either I learned about two 58 00:03:36,479 --> 00:03:33,160 experimental groups who would each been 59 00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:36,489 studying the decay rates of elements and 60 00:03:42,990 --> 00:03:39,540 each found an annual variation in the 61 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:43,000 decay rates one group was carried out 62 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:45,070 experiments carry out at brookhaven 63 00:03:51,810 --> 00:03:46,959 national laboratory by al Berg and his 64 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:51,820 colleagues and this is a plot of the 65 00:03:57,479 --> 00:03:54,010 results is actually seven point running 66 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:57,489 means to smooth it and that the red line 67 00:04:03,650 --> 00:03:59,760 is the inverse of the sun-earth distance 68 00:04:05,940 --> 00:04:03,660 and normalized to be similar to the 69 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:05,950 amplitude of the decay rate variations 70 00:04:12,509 --> 00:04:09,310 and you see that they both that the 71 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:12,519 decay rates seem to show a very obvious 72 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:15,370 annual variation the phase is not 73 00:04:19,849 --> 00:04:18,250 exactly the same as the one you would 74 00:04:24,290 --> 00:04:19,859 expect from the sun-earth distance 75 00:04:26,899 --> 00:04:24,300 eccentricity another group 76 00:04:29,779 --> 00:04:26,909 in Germany seagulls and his colleagues 77 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:29,789 who carried out announcer several 78 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:32,280 elements but one which is radium and 79 00:04:39,260 --> 00:04:35,759 that went on for about 12 years and you 80 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:39,270 see it's an even more striking fit to 81 00:04:46,969 --> 00:04:44,280 the annual variation curve so the 82 00:04:48,529 --> 00:04:46,979 question was what is going on and the 83 00:04:49,490 --> 00:04:48,539 spread mendel's of course will convince 84 00:04:51,529 --> 00:04:49,500 her something wrong with their 85 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:51,539 experiment they were unable to pin down 86 00:04:56,990 --> 00:04:55,680 exactly what it was but obviously decay 87 00:04:58,610 --> 00:04:57,000 rate don't chain so there had to be 88 00:05:01,159 --> 00:04:58,620 something wrong with the experiment well 89 00:05:02,779 --> 00:05:01,169 perverse reasons are efron Fishbach 90 00:05:08,649 --> 00:05:02,789 decided to look into this more carefully 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:08,659 and he finding these and one other 92 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:11,250 experimental set all showing annual 93 00:05:16,059 --> 00:05:13,289 variation he suspected that something 94 00:05:18,350 --> 00:05:16,069 real was going on an annual variation 95 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:18,360 suggested that maybe the Sun will be 96 00:05:26,899 --> 00:05:19,620 involved since the sun-earth distance 97 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:26,909 varies on a one-year timescale so this 98 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:30,330 is where I came in and as long as one is 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:32,430 looking only at an annual variation for 100 00:05:37,309 --> 00:05:33,810 this will be very concerned because 101 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:37,319 radon flux and temperature and pressure 102 00:05:42,649 --> 00:05:40,529 or vary with annual timescale so I 103 00:05:47,629 --> 00:05:42,659 thought if one is looking for evidence 104 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:47,639 of a solar effect one should look for 105 00:05:52,309 --> 00:05:49,440 some other signal which one can 106 00:05:55,969 --> 00:05:52,319 associate with the Sun and one is solar 107 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:55,979 rotation and there is no unique so 108 00:06:00,649 --> 00:05:57,900 rotation rate even the surface of the 109 00:06:05,300 --> 00:06:00,659 Sun the rotation rate varies over quite 110 00:06:07,999 --> 00:06:05,310 a wide range but a reasonable search ban 111 00:06:14,589 --> 00:06:08,009 would be between 10 and 15 cycles per 112 00:06:19,490 --> 00:06:14,599 year and the left-hand curve shows an a 113 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:19,500 time-frequency analysis of some of the 114 00:06:26,269 --> 00:06:22,050 data from the Brookhaven experiment the 115 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:26,279 chlorine Dana and it shows it shows very 116 00:06:33,499 --> 00:06:30,330 clearly that the one year once I could 117 00:06:34,590 --> 00:06:33,509 be a variation the very bottom running 118 00:06:36,810 --> 00:06:34,600 throughout the time scale 119 00:06:38,430 --> 00:06:36,820 drifting off toward fading away over 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:38,440 towards the end interestingly enough 121 00:06:44,460 --> 00:06:40,570 this may be an experimental effect 122 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:44,470 because all the all the variations seem 123 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:47,260 to fade away towards the end that is 124 00:06:52,770 --> 00:06:50,350 shows very clearly features with 125 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:52,780 frequencies of 10.9 cycles per year and 126 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:56,770 twelve point seven cycles PR which fall 127 00:07:00,660 --> 00:06:58,330 in the surf band for possible rotation 128 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:00,670 rates little on the low side that there 129 00:07:07,980 --> 00:07:03,550 we are on the right hand side is silicon 130 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:07,990 and that shows are very little in the 131 00:07:13,590 --> 00:07:10,720 work in the search band and very little 132 00:07:16,050 --> 00:07:13,600 in the one cycle per year and this shows 133 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:16,060 that different elements behave 134 00:07:20,430 --> 00:07:18,490 differently whatever is going on it's 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:20,440 not uniform is not the same for all 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:26,650 elements this is a power spectrum from 137 00:07:33,060 --> 00:07:30,370 the BNL data and chlorine on the Left 138 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:33,070 silicon on the right and they showed 139 00:07:42,030 --> 00:07:36,630 clear peaks at one cycle PA 11.1 and 140 00:07:44,370 --> 00:07:42,040 12.7 but learn more pronounced for the 141 00:07:47,790 --> 00:07:44,380 chlorine then for the silicon as we 142 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:47,800 recently just noticed we are going to do 143 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:50,890 a test to say if this is real or not and 144 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:53,260 that one simple test is to shuffle the 145 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:56,800 data you have a list of times dates of 146 00:08:00,510 --> 00:07:57,610 measurement have lists of the 147 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:00,520 measurements you don't change the time 148 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:02,410 you don't change the measurements but 149 00:08:06,570 --> 00:08:04,660 you will arrange them you you shuffle 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:06,580 them and you assign a measurement to the 151 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:08,530 wrong time so you do this many times 152 00:08:15,810 --> 00:08:12,070 over and I did it ten thousand times and 153 00:08:18,930 --> 00:08:15,820 not once that I get a peak as big as the 154 00:08:22,650 --> 00:08:18,940 actual peak in the in the in the power 155 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:22,660 spectrum and with a different display as 156 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:24,370 over to infer there's only about one 157 00:08:29,730 --> 00:08:27,070 chance in a million of getting a peak in 158 00:08:35,930 --> 00:08:29,740 the search band as big as that which we 159 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:35,940 actually find now this is the 160 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:38,070 the work this is the book is a German 161 00:08:43,460 --> 00:08:40,890 experiment and on the left is radium on 162 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:43,470 the right europium one of the elements 163 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:45,660 they looked at and a tremendously strong 164 00:08:51,170 --> 00:08:48,480 signal at one cycle PR in radium and 165 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:51,180 nothing in europium and this by itself 166 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:53,760 tells you that is not an instrumental 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:55,800 effect or an environmental effect 168 00:09:00,740 --> 00:08:58,050 because that would be you have the same 169 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:00,750 instrumentation same environment for 170 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:04,220 radium and for your opium and so you see 171 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:07,920 this if it if the peak would you too if 172 00:09:12,770 --> 00:09:10,080 the modulation with you to environmental 173 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:12,780 effects or instrumentation you see the 174 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:15,450 same signal in both datasets and you 175 00:09:23,450 --> 00:09:20,580 don't so alright and this again is a 176 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:23,460 power spectrum as i said the fact you 177 00:09:33,020 --> 00:09:27,470 see a tremendous peak sorry power of 178 00:09:35,660 --> 00:09:33,030 about 500 in the in Radian and in fact 179 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:35,670 in nothing in europium shows that it is 180 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:38,610 not an instrumental or an environmental 181 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:44,010 effect and where it is interesting to be 182 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:47,730 able to combine data sets and see what 183 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:50,490 is common between two data sets as well 184 00:09:55,460 --> 00:09:52,710 as like forming a correlation function 185 00:09:58,130 --> 00:09:55,470 but working with power spectra instead 186 00:10:00,080 --> 00:09:58,140 of the time series themselves I lunker 187 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:00,090 the details here but there is a way of 188 00:10:07,390 --> 00:10:03,930 combining a 2 power spectra s1 and s2 in 189 00:10:11,270 --> 00:10:07,400 such a way that what you form from it 190 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:11,280 which is this quantity J it has the same 191 00:10:15,470 --> 00:10:13,620 exponential distribution that the power 192 00:10:18,050 --> 00:10:15,480 itself and that makes it easy to 193 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:18,060 interpret the significance of whatever 194 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:20,130 comes out of this power spectrum 195 00:10:29,060 --> 00:10:24,770 analysis and so what I've done here is 196 00:10:31,250 --> 00:10:29,070 to combine now here I'm looking for a 197 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:31,260 link with neutrinos and in particular 198 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:33,480 with lower energy neutrinos there are 199 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:35,610 two leather neutrino experiments which 200 00:10:41,210 --> 00:10:38,610 you have data one is galax you know 201 00:10:42,980 --> 00:10:41,220 gallium experiment and the others home 202 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:42,990 state using chlorine 203 00:10:51,139 --> 00:10:47,700 and so i combined data from those two 204 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:51,149 neutrino experiments I also combine an 205 00:10:58,910 --> 00:10:53,700 oddly enough with it radiance data which 206 00:11:01,040 --> 00:10:58,920 appears to be related to neutrinos in a 207 00:11:04,940 --> 00:11:01,050 way that's very very interesting very 208 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:04,950 surprising and it's a challenge to 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:07,200 understand exactly why there is this 210 00:11:14,570 --> 00:11:10,170 close relationship but when you combine 211 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:14,580 these four datasets GALEX and Akram for 212 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:17,130 the for the guy x interval homestake an 213 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:19,470 acronym for the homestake interval you 214 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:22,050 get a tremendous peak with power of 40 215 00:11:27,410 --> 00:11:25,040 we're worried about the noise level and 216 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:27,420 with that frequents will define a 217 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:30,300 sharpie define frequency at eleven point 218 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:35,370 eight five cycles per year and this is 219 00:11:45,980 --> 00:11:41,250 interesting because ah this is a gain a 220 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:45,990 shuffle test showing is only about two 221 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:48,540 chances in 10,000 of getting a 222 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:50,850 statistics this large this is playing 223 00:11:56,030 --> 00:11:52,410 around only with the neutrino data 224 00:11:57,829 --> 00:11:56,040 leaving the the Akram data unchanged if 225 00:11:59,720 --> 00:11:57,839 you change akram Vader as well shuffle 226 00:12:04,220 --> 00:11:59,730 that too it will be a much more 227 00:12:06,980 --> 00:12:04,230 significant than that so this is a plot 228 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:06,990 of the known internal rotation rate of 229 00:12:15,139 --> 00:12:11,040 the Sun and this is the convection zone 230 00:12:18,139 --> 00:12:15,149 from about point 7 5 solo a out to after 231 00:12:23,569 --> 00:12:18,149 the photosphere and the rotation raised 232 00:12:26,060 --> 00:12:23,579 about 14.5 cycles PR the idea sad gyro 233 00:12:28,370 --> 00:12:26,070 rotation rate below that is the 234 00:12:30,829 --> 00:12:28,380 radiative zone as is not as well well 235 00:12:33,740 --> 00:12:30,839 it's very well determine here not as 236 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:33,750 well determine here that's about 13.5 237 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:36,930 cycles per year that what we find from 238 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:40,170 our analysis of neutrinos and the 239 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:43,470 radiance and actually from the data de 240 00:12:52,060 --> 00:12:46,880 kado as well r is a much lower frequency 241 00:13:00,180 --> 00:12:56,000 ninth replication of this is that 242 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:00,190 the neutrino data is telling us the 243 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:01,750 rotation rate of the core of the Sun 244 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:03,690 which really as otherwise unknown 245 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:07,290 helioseismology does not go as deep as 246 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:10,450 as the core which the radius about point 247 00:13:20,370 --> 00:13:18,010 two five and below so it is off but 248 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:20,380 after all neutrinos are a result of 249 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:22,810 nuclear reactions the nuclear reactions 250 00:13:28,860 --> 00:13:25,810 all occur in the core of the Sun so it's 251 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:28,870 only logical that if neutrinos show any 252 00:13:33,570 --> 00:13:30,820 pure disa T is likely to be the 253 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:33,580 periodicity of the core not over and out 254 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:39,400 of there and there's one more one more 255 00:13:46,290 --> 00:13:43,050 test so so far we have two pointers that 256 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:46,300 the decay rates and some of the other 257 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:48,490 effects are related to the core of the 258 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:52,390 Sun one row the Sun itself one is the 259 00:13:59,100 --> 00:13:55,600 annual variation and the other is there 260 00:14:01,230 --> 00:13:59,110 is through the pure disa T which we can 261 00:14:03,540 --> 00:14:01,240 relate to the rotation rate of the core 262 00:14:05,660 --> 00:14:03,550 as one more there's not a periodicity 263 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:05,670 well known solar physics discovered by 264 00:14:13,230 --> 00:14:07,990 eric regain his colleagues many years 265 00:14:17,970 --> 00:14:13,240 ago which has a pure 154 days ok I 266 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:17,980 haven't been watching you and it is an 267 00:14:23,130 --> 00:14:20,320 armload oscillation given by this 268 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:23,140 formula the way I daresay both supposing 269 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:26,050 the same oscillation occurs in the core 270 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:29,140 of the Sun we use the same formula use 271 00:14:34,820 --> 00:14:31,810 the same values at L&M that will replace 272 00:14:38,340 --> 00:14:34,830 the rotation rate of the convection zone 273 00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:38,350 which gives the 1 1 for 4 days with the 274 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:41,800 rotation rate of the core as we infer 275 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:49,690 and this then leads us to expect peaks 276 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:53,260 where the arrow is shown at 2.14 and 277 00:14:59,490 --> 00:14:55,690 here i show plots of what you find the 278 00:15:02,310 --> 00:14:59,500 B&L data and in the radium data and you 279 00:15:05,250 --> 00:15:02,320 find peaks at exactly where you expect 280 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:05,260 them so this show that our mode 281 00:15:12,130 --> 00:15:07,010 oscillations also are going 282 00:15:15,970 --> 00:15:12,140 on in the car and don't give rise to do 283 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:15,980 I stop this okay but I iron through and 284 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:21,110 through NSA this is a search for a low 285 00:15:35,170 --> 00:15:24,010 defying frequency it turns up in both 286 00:15:38,590 --> 00:15:35,180 BNL and PTP data thank you Peter 287 00:15:41,410 --> 00:15:38,600 otherwise stop with the beating somebody 288 00:15:42,910 --> 00:15:41,420 else top deck thank you alright if you 289 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:42,920 want to get a few days as as we 290 00:15:47,050 --> 00:15:44,450 mentioned at the beginning if you want 291 00:15:49,090 --> 00:15:47,060 to have a question please come to the 292 00:15:51,370 --> 00:15:49,100 center of the microphone there so we 293 00:15:56,290 --> 00:15:51,380 don't like I saw a hand go up in the 294 00:15:58,030 --> 00:15:56,300 back so please come on up of course if 295 00:16:00,520 --> 00:15:58,040 you have any quick comments while they 296 00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:00,530 look nvidia now I've got through my 297 00:16:08,620 --> 00:16:05,120 slides sir I have two questions about 298 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:08,630 this interesting research and first and 299 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:11,090 I see that in both the cases you showed 300 00:16:16,630 --> 00:16:14,450 the phase of the cycle does not really 301 00:16:20,020 --> 00:16:16,640 agree with the phase of the solar system 302 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:20,030 exactly exam you explored what phase it 303 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:22,190 is guys exactly exactly is this another 304 00:16:27,550 --> 00:16:24,890 phase your moment which my husband it 305 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:27,560 means look Thea it means that the flux 306 00:16:33,130 --> 00:16:31,010 of neutrinos is not determined purely by 307 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:33,140 the sun-earth distance of something else 308 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:37,490 and if something else is related to the 309 00:16:44,050 --> 00:16:41,090 tilt of the sun's axis with respect to 310 00:16:45,790 --> 00:16:44,060 the ecliptic an example where you shane 311 00:16:47,650 --> 00:16:45,800 warne oh have you tied it into that and 312 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:47,660 got the kinect fees should we have you 313 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:49,970 tied it into that in dugout right the 314 00:16:55,090 --> 00:16:53,360 kinect fade Oh actually you had the 315 00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:55,100 phase there's no in the face is 316 00:17:00,190 --> 00:16:57,110 different different elements and so 317 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:00,200 there are two a fetch each giving annual 318 00:17:05,020 --> 00:17:02,530 variation one is that earth-sun distance 319 00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:05,030 the other is whether you're seeing the 320 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:06,500 northern hemisphere or southern 321 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:09,290 hemisphere of the Sun yes and the myth 322 00:17:12,460 --> 00:17:10,640 the mixture of the two effects is 323 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:12,470 different for different elements that's 324 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:14,370 one cannot you 325 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:17,370 push this pattern can we allow another 326 00:17:23,090 --> 00:17:20,150 have occurred so we not have a dialogue 327 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:23,100 there's some other people waiting to ask 328 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:30,840 questions any speculation as to why this 329 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:33,210 neutrino flux influences all the 330 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:36,000 different elements differently no that 331 00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:39,090 is a problem for nuclear physicists and 332 00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:41,820 it is not something that explained by 333 00:17:46,010 --> 00:17:44,070 current neutrino theory so if this 334 00:17:48,650 --> 00:17:46,020 effect is correct and the evidence seems 335 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:48,660 pretty strong it will call for further 336 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:50,760 development in the theory of neutrinos 337 00:17:57,530 --> 00:17:55,290 thank you this seems to be very 338 00:18:02,080 --> 00:17:57,540 important and so I'd looked into it a 339 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:02,090 little bit too and and I offer one other 340 00:18:07,070 --> 00:18:05,010 not a theory but just an observation for 341 00:18:09,580 --> 00:18:07,080 your comment and that is that the 342 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:09,590 creamer transactional interpretation 343 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:13,050 implies in a sense that any emission 344 00:18:19,460 --> 00:18:15,330 like a radioactive decay must have a 345 00:18:23,540 --> 00:18:19,470 receiver a an absorber at the other end 346 00:18:25,910 --> 00:18:23,550 and so if radioactive decay has some 347 00:18:27,169 --> 00:18:25,920 variations involved it might have to do 348 00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:27,179 with what's around that could be 349 00:18:33,020 --> 00:18:29,400 absorbers and so perhaps this one being 350 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:33,030 one big thing there yes well I think my 351 00:18:38,990 --> 00:18:35,760 guess is you're on the right track okay 352 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:39,000 Buddhist but since we the case is that 353 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:41,730 the flux of neutrinos and environment 354 00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:44,610 our density of neutrinos influences the 355 00:18:49,940 --> 00:18:47,580 decay rate this is the heretical 356 00:18:51,770 --> 00:18:49,950 suggestion but I suppose it may be put 357 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:51,780 forward in this form your period of 358 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:53,910 approximately twelve point seven your 359 00:18:57,380 --> 00:18:55,290 frequency about twelve point seven per 360 00:19:01,060 --> 00:18:57,390 year is also very close to a lunar 361 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:01,070 period yes sure but it's distinguishable 362 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:03,450 that's what I want to ask is it is the 363 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:06,630 new no period outside the window of my